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I agree, I have stuck with W98 because it suits me. XP sucks.
Debster | 02.02.07 - 8:04 a.m. | #
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With you all the way. I'm always signed into Yahoo (well, as long as they let me stay logged in for) so have reluctantly linked my Flickr to my Yahoo ID otherwise I'd have to create a new one and keep logging in and out (which would drive me nuts).
Likewise Blogger. The switch went smoothly and I haven't played with it much yet but why do they have to keep changing things?
GoodTwin | 02.02.07 - 8:28 a.m. | #
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I'm also not for the change, more about yahoo's culture and disregard for peoples basic human rights than anything.
Anyway, once you're logged into flickr you stay logged in - even with a yahoo id - plenty of people have confirmed that in the huge long thread @ flickrhelp.
R.I.Pienaar | Homepage | 02.02.07 - 8:44 a.m. | #
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I thought you'd have gone mad for the new blogger. Tags, guy, TAGS!
dg writes: tags, not, slightest, bit, interested
Scaryduck | Homepage | 02.02.07 - 8:53 a.m. | #
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Bah, I switched from blogger. Another annoying thing with it is that if you had a non-blogspot account (like mine was), all the boxes were in crappy slow Java.
Wordpress all the way.
Rhys | Homepage | 02.02.07 - 9:10 a.m. | #
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To be fair, I have a Flickr account with a Yahoo! ID and I don't have to log in every time. I do have to login to other Yahoo! services on a regular basis, but not Flickr.
andyp | Homepage | 02.02.07 - 9:14 a.m. | #
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I've noticed that if I leave a comment on someone's new Blogger account and then sign out out Blogger, it also signs me out of my (Google) gmail account which I have open in another tab. I have no idea if these are connected, but it seems too coincidental to me...
The Girl | Homepage | 02.02.07 - 9:16 a.m. | #
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If you really hate the idea of Yahoo! logins on Flickr, and it is just the delayed, yet inevitable Yahoo reverse Midas effect (ie: Everything they touch turns to shit), you can get your money back from Flickr.
Smugmug are doing a half price off for Flickr transferrers.
Other photo services are available. None of them are as good as Flickr at the moment, but given Yahoo's record, that will change.
ian | Homepage | 02.02.07 - 9:21 a.m. | #
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My beef is like The Girl's: if I want to comment on another blog, I have to sign out of whatever else I'm doing (gmail, Google Reader etc.) because my blogger email address is different to my Google one. I get confused easily, so this is a real bind.
That said, I do like Google. They seem to do everything they do more easily and clearly than everyone else.
Simon | Homepage | 02.02.07 - 10:19 a.m. | #
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While I'll agree that having to change your login is a minor annoyance, the level of moaning and whinging it's created on the various Flickr-related fora is nothing short of awe-inspiring. You'd swear Yahoo had killed everyone's parents.
I see a lot of people threatening to leave and very few actually doing it. Maybe because they got a new sense of perspective when they sat down to do it.
As pointed out, dg - you will stay logged in. Or at least you *should*. YMMV.
Chz | Homepage | 02.02.07 - 10:36 a.m. | #
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Well, I can't believe how you lied to us DG. You said you'd upgraded, and now it turns out you haven't. How can we ever trust you again? Next you'll be telling us you weren't trapped in the tube on Monday either!
ian | Homepage | 02.02.07 - 11:03 a.m. | #
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Flickr always stays logged in for me, and I've always been on Yahoo ID. Admittedly other Yahoo sites sometimes ask me to log in, but it's never been a major issue.
Kirk | 02.02.07 - 11:52 a.m. | #
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As an IT bod who has to occasionally convince people to change, mostly to Lotus Notes which everyone hates, I say BAH! to you. Just change and stop making IT people's lives a misery.
IT people never implement a badly thought out system.
[fingers in ears] NOT LISTENING, NOT LISTENING, NOT LISTENING, NOT LISTENING, NOT LISTENING, NOT LISTENING, NOT LISTENING, NOT LISTENING, NOT LISTENING, NOT LISTENING, NOT LISTENING, NOT LISTENING.
Uncle Hunty | 02.02.07 - 12:19 p.m. | #
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Excellent post. I have blogged about it here:
http://digitalmavericks.blogspot...now-
flickr.html
My Blog post also includes reference to the more worrying exploitation of ‘all rights reserved’ Flickr photos by Yahoo in their http://wii.yahoo.com mini portal (apparently it is the frst of 100 planned mini-portals). A case of mass complaints (throughte Flickr Forum) and civil disobedience got this matter dealt with very quickly (indeed it was very exciting to be posting to the Forum at the very moment this story was taking shape), but the fact Yahoo did it at all shows their contempt for the social community they are attempting to cultivate which to me is a far far far bigger issue than the need to sign with a Yahoo User ID. BTW it would seem to me the MAIN gripe is less about the trivia of 'lost old skool status' (I have little time for the people who are just miffed at that) and more about PAYING members being forced to join a service (Yahoo) they don't want to join for perfectly understandable reasons (like the distrust of Yahoo.
Drew Buddie | Homepage | 02.02.07 - 12:53 p.m. | #
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Flickr/Yahoo - if you already HAVE a Yahoo login, what's the beef? They already "have" you...
Blogger? Behind the times I'm afraid, it's not keeping up with progress and whilst it will remain a good starting point for 'noobs' I think those of us who have been doing this for a while prefer something a bit more stable, and slightly more feature rich...
Gordon | Homepage | 02.02.07 - 1:11 p.m. | #
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I upgraded to the new blogger really early on, and have liked it mostly - but then I just ramble incoherently about rubbish and don't generally want to play around under the bonnet too much.
Making Haloscan work initially was a pigging nightmare, but now there is an auto-install which seemed to work on my new (daft) blog instantly.
I might be looking for something to replace Flickr though. I'm fed up with Yahoo! installing 17 toolbars just cos I wanted to IM to a mate.
Ta!
Just Me | Homepage | 02.02.07 - 1:13 p.m. | #
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Of course the fundamental problem here is that these are free services. Beggars can't be choosers...
Kevinho | 02.02.07 - 2:03 p.m. | #
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flikr and blogspot both have paid-for upgrades do they not?
Another Andrew | 02.02.07 - 3:21 p.m. | #
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Gordon - Blogger may be behind the times, but I value its simplicity. I don't want sidebar widgets, I don't want tagged posts and I don't want CSS-rich stylesheet perfection.
I like having a simple big grey rectangle to fill, with no distractions, and then filling it myself with hopefully-interesting stuff.
diamond geezer | Homepage | 02.02.07 - 4:59 p.m. | #
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I have a Yahoo ID - so yes, they do already 'have me'. But being forced to link it to my Flickr account is what annoys me.
When Yahoo first took over egroups they attempted to assume copyright of anything within those groups. Quite simply, I don't trust them.
GoodTwin | 02.02.07 - 6:04 p.m. | #
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As I have said many, many times, there is no such thing as a free lunch.
I like my words and my photos under my control.
On a related note, it amuses me that many of the people moaning about ID cards etc regularly use gmail, Yahoo, loyalty cards etc etc.
Thai Blue Witch | Homepage | 02.02.07 - 6:14 p.m. | #
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I've followed the various upgrades without really being too hassled by any of the systems.
New Blogger works the same as old Blogger but publishes faster. My old template which has my own javascript customisations and haloscan commenting still works fine.
New flickr with yahoo login is well behaved and yahoo's old insecurities forcing myriad logins seem to only affect yahoo itself. I try not to add all the fancy toolbars and that cuts down the excess buttonage.
But I suppose the next couple of years will see the inexorable march of adverts into everything. Youtube is planning 3 second ad preload for all videos and the first commercially made 'exclusive for youtube' ads are appearing.
Glad to see you are back from your recent tube excursion.
rashbre | Homepage | 03.02.07 - 3:05 a.m. | #
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On the Yahoo thing I find the same is true - on legacy Yahoo sites. They claim to only check sporadically but actually it's several times daily.
But Flickr, which is not legacy Yahoo code, seems to work like a dream. I only have to login again when I clear my cookies (I'm sure that's a euphemism for something!)
Richard Gillin | Homepage | 03.02.07 - 11:03 a.m. | #
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I developed an irrational hatred of Yahoo after a Yahoo toolbar suddenly appeared on my screen and I'd no idea how to get rid of it.
In the end I had to venture into the jungle of system information, a place I rarely go (being a computer novice), where, after much searching, I found it hiding in a thicket and shot it between the eyes.
Great Aunt Annie | 03.02.07 - 6:47 p.m. | #
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Tags are wank.
I don't think our American cousins behind this have quite realised that people may keep blogs under different names to which they have their e-mail addresses, and that they may wish to keep their photo collections separate from their e-mails as well.
Ho-hum.
Inspector Sands | Homepage | 04.02.07 - 12:56 a.m. | #
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Blog migration to new Blogger went remarkably smooth for me a few months ago, certainly much less hassle than changing your template!
Uroskin | Homepage | 07.02.07 - 1:30 a.m. | #
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