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I have lost count the amount of times people have moaned about something to do with the design of my blog. But like you I started using blogspot quite some time ago when templates were limited as was blogging knowledge.

I think almost every blog I've been reading for a long time has overgone a design change apart from mine and yours

I would rather concentrate on keeping the content fresh and interesting than improve the design on my blog - after all I'm NOT a designer!

If people are really so bothered by how something looks, they really shouldn't be looking at it.

Incidentally, in the mini Euro blogmeet I was at last night, we were discussing your blog at some length and one of the bloggers said he didn't like your black on grey design and yet he was fascinated by your blog and whenever he read it, spent half an hour reading it. So reluctantly he agreed that the design of your blog didn't stop him from reading it. Plus so many people read blogs in RSS readers right now the design hardly matters.

People's (IMO) rather lame arguments about design, are that it might make a few more people read it (unless they blog is in simply unreadable clashing colours), but my counter argument is after a while people completley forget the design of blogs and visit for the content.

Phew

Black on grey? It's black on silver

I suppose I could follow D4D and allow readers to choose their own colour scheme, but I wouldn't know how to code it.

Like you say, content is definitely more important than design.

There does come a point where bad design deters people from reading a blog's content, but hopefully black on silver is just bearable enough...

Like you I prefer variable widths. It can get a bit harder to read on very big screens but much better than having to scroll down when there's space to spare at the borders (I hate waste).

I don't think I've designed a fixed-width website in at least the last five years. I find the wasted screen-space truly annoying, so all the stuff I do is fluid, and fills the available space.

Of course, it also makes it more accessible - you don't have to sod about with different widths for people viewing on a PDA or a mobile phone, for example.

Cheers for the plugs/links, by the way!

It's not something I've given a lot of thought to, to be honest. Wordpress does all that for me. I could probably get down into the CSS if I was that way inclined and make it go fluid, but, meh. Can't be arsed.

I narrowblog because I'm a control freak, and I like to think of my site looking EXACTLY the same to everyone else as it does on my computer (mind you, to have that be the case they would really have to come round and look at my site on my computer - which, I admit, might be a little inconvenient).

Mind you, having recently bought a laptop with a wide monitor screen, I must confess that even I get a little fed up with all the acres of wasted space on many sites . . .

209 and 447 - you did ask for the codes didn't you?

Anyway - I beg to differ on the point about content and design being too separately manipulatable(?) parts of the experience. OK - they can be manipulated for sure - but there is a "brand" element to the pages that is made up of both these things. Sum of the parts if you will. It's what makes Diamond Geezer what it is. If you were to change your design to a narrowblog format - then it wouldn't be Diamond Geezer. Perhaps I'm talking rubbish - but like Annie's anecdote above - I, too, personally don't like the design here - and I have to admit that there are some aspects of the content that I don't like either (nothing personal or anything) - but I, too, am compelled to come here daily (or even twice daily) to read and admire. As an example - just look at how beautifully, gracefully, crafted your "just surfed in" links on the right hand side are - I can't help but admire that every time I come here. That's just one thing - there are too many others to list here. It's not necessarily about content OR design - I think it's both.

Short column widths tend to be easier to read though, which is one of four reasons why I maintain a "narrow" format.

The other reasons? Control freakery (cf. Vaughan above) laziness (mine's a modified Blogger template) and fear (what if it looks crap)?

OK, I just tried my converting my blog to full-screen format. Sorry, but it looked awful... the column widths were far too wide for the font size, and even with an increased font size the problem persisted. Not doing it!

At least neither of us suffer from the most irritating design flaw of them all, which seems to happen most often on Movable Type sites: when the whole sidebar drops right down to the bottom of the page, because it won't fit side by side with the main column. I hate that, I do!

It seems that black type on a medium gray background is the best you could have chosen:

Sorry, link vanished! Try:

hubel.sfasu.edu/research/AHNCUR.html

and here is research comparing wide to narrow columns that concludes you are right yet again:

www.humanfactors.com/downloads/oct02.asp

You know something, if we were getting "paid" to blog I think people could have a point about the design & accessibility - but we're not! It's something we do as a "hobby" and I think after a while people begin to forget that, and think we're providing a public service.

BTW I don't think that Jag's design has changed that much over the years too - although I think his comments area looks different.

Yes - I've kept mine pretty much the same in design terms. In the old blog the screen layout was centred and auto-resizing if you changed the window size, I had two link-bars; one on either side of the centre pane - and the comments area used to be popup window - and.

In the current blog there is no-auto-resizing done - it's all left-justified - with two link-bars in the right - and no popup-window for comments any more.

he main reason for these changes was to allow convenient viewing on a PDA or mobile phone - you will find that most PDA and mobile phones do not support pop-ups - and it's also a real pain to be doing horizontal scrolling on mobile devices - so with my current blog being left-justified you never need to do horizontal scroll if you visit on a PDA or mobile phone.

As more of us start to read and write blogs on mobile devices - the approach to design best practise will have to adapt/change. For example - black text on grey background (sorry silver DG) whilst may be ideal for full screen viewing with sit-at-desk posture - might not be ideal for mobile screen viewing in sitting-on-the-bus posture.

My blog design is essentially a 2002 Blogger stock template, slightly tweaked but with a nicer (non-green) colour scheme. I'm now quite happy to leave it alone because I think content is far more important than design, just so long as the design exceeds a certain quality threshold in the first place.

And I must admit, being a very infrequent mobile phone internet user, that I hadn't considered my (presumably tiny) PDA/mobile audience before. Maybe these people should just buy a computer like the rest of us

I spent a lot of my time in my working days (well in the days that I was paid for working) looking at the legibility of type setting.
The basic rules apply whether you are reading a book or a computer screen. Line length should be betweem 50 and 70 characters - not so long that it tires the eyes and not so short that the eyes must keep jumping back and forth. Obviously other factors such as the colour, background, type size and the leading (space between the lines) matter as well but line length is important.
That said we do read newspapers like the Guardian with narrow columns and justified text (with all the word splits) and still cope with it every day without complaining.

Good on you DG - I'm pleased you're keeping the black on silver design and agree that as long as exceeds certainly quality thresholds in readablity, people will still come and read what you write.

The vast majority of web pages aren't designed to be read on PDAs cos the vast majority of people don't have PDAs.

Pop artists point shows that we all get used to seeing certain things in certain ways and if the content is strong we will read it











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