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Thanks, as usual nothing is quite what it seems, surprised about what counts as a minor delay the night tube, especially if you want one of the early morning mainline trains.
Still Anon | 14.01.19 - 7:58 a.m. | #
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"Someone in the control room is checking all these conditions"
I wonder how automated this process is, because the only condition requiring human input is whether a train is in operation or cancelled, from what I can see. The rest can be derived from network data, theoretically, therefore no human would be needed for escalation other than monitoring and organising response actions. But I haven't the slightest idea how control rooms work.
commonliner | 14.01.19 - 8:29 a.m. | #
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I like your fridge magnets, DG.
Matt | 14.01.19 - 8:34 a.m. | #
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And of course you can compare announcements for London Overground with National Rail reports that are not always the same.
Sprout Eater | 14.01.19 - 8:44 a.m. | #
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You gave the core times for W&C. Do these vary on the other lines ?
kev | 14.01.19 - 8:54 a.m. | #
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There were no announcements at Vauxhall this morning but everyone was held behind the barriers.
Sprout Eater | 14.01.19 - 9:20 a.m. | #
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The uselessness of status information re the Overground does not really stem from the complex definitions. It arises because all its parts are jumbled together.
Malcolm | 14.01.19 - 9:37 a.m. | #
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Initial Service Alerts are no longer permitted
Kim | 14.01.19 - 11:13 a.m. | #
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I always thought there should be an intermediate category of delay between 'minor' and 'severe'. Now, having seen the complexity of the criteria involved, I understand why there isn't.
Jonathan Wadman | 14.01.19 - 11:14 a.m. | #
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These guidelines are a load of b*ll*x. TfL would rather say 'good service' when it is clear the service has gone to pot. If people take TfL to task it'll say 'look we've got guidelines, we're abiding by these.' Its like chasing the proverbial ark.
Those travelling on the tube see, hear, experience differently Those in TfL Ivory Towers with their nicely inflated, largely undeserved theft wages cant tell the difference between a live parrot and a dead one!
Rog | Homepage | 14.01.19 - 1:27 p.m. | #
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I'm pretty certain based on practical experience that for the W&C, "cancelled trains" means "trains out of service". I've been on the Waterloo & City in the peaks many times when one train is out of service (they often advertise this by saying they're running a "four-train timetable" - the usual peak-time timetable is a five-train timetable and they have a grand total of five trains, with no maintenance spare...), which by definition means one train every 15 minutes is cancelled, and yet this was still announced only as minor delays.
Muzer | 14.01.19 - 2:17 p.m. | #
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The full list of options are - Bus Service, Good Service, Minor Delays, Part Closure, Part Suspended, Planned Closure, Reduced Service, Service Closed, Severe Delays and Suspended.
Kim | 14.01.19 - 2:38 p.m. | #
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I used to work on for London Underground myself, and if I couldn't grasp the definition and ambiguity of the status updates, what chance did the travelling public have ?
richard | 14.01.19 - 4:10 p.m. | #
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OH! It's Good Service!
I always thought it was Goods Service and I have been hanging around looking for freight trains to go through for hours.
It's a cheek to say it's Good Service, cos it rarely is where I live!
Hearing Alert | 14.01.19 - 4:42 p.m. | #
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If you look at the Goblin at the Weekends its Severe Delays all weekend...<snip>
dg writes: No it isn't.
Drew | Homepage | 14.01.19 - 7:46 p.m. | #
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The most annoying thing is when they decide to run trains NON STOP from a particular station to make up lost time resulting in huge gaps in the service affecting the trains stops they cut out. TfLRail [Eastern side] do this all the time.
Drew | Homepage | 14.01.19 - 7:52 p.m. | #
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One of the problems with TfL's approach is that to many people "Minor Delays" will mean the same number of trains just running more slowly, rather than the reality of fewer trains, ie more crowded, ie at peak times can't get on the train at all.
Andrew Simpson | 14.01.19 - 10:42 p.m. | #
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I'm still not clear what "normal headway" means. Can anyone explain?
Paul | 15.01.19 - 11:08 a.m. | #
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Normal headway would mean the gaps between trains are what's timetabled for that time of day. e.g. in the peak you might have a train every 2 minutes, off peak it might be every 3-4 minutes.
Moogal | 15.01.19 - 1:48 p.m. | #
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Ok thanks. So does 2x headway mean the time between trains is doubled?
Paul | 16.01.19 - 1:17 a.m. | #
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So, if there is a stop of 11-14 minutes on the Picadilly during core time, they don't know how to announce it, or?
dg writes: Minor delays
MiaM | 01.02.19 - 11:35 a.m. | #
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In summary "good Service" might mean all is well give or take the odd cancellation.
Anything else is bad news particularly above ground on a cold day as when a train does turn up it might well be rammed full anyway.
chris | 07.02.19 - 10:09 a.m. | #
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