please empty your brain below
This is effectively the closest Crossrail comes to my neck of the woods, so to speak. Excitement abound.

EonLeader | 23.10.17 - 7:36 a.m. | #

Is the name plate above the doors meant to resemble a TfL station (white lettering on blue) but using a Network Rail font as it’s the ultimate owner, despite TfL managing the station? It doesn’t look like Johnston, though can’t be sure.

| 23.10.17 - 7:44 a.m. | #

Do they have roundels?

dg writes: Not on the Southeastern platforms.

Tom | Homepage | 23.10.17 - 8:05 a.m. | #

The internal wood ceiling looks nice,but is the external wood cladding the type that goes a streaky grey after a year or two? If so, rather sad. Do architects never consider the long-term appearance of their creations?

RayL | 23.10.17 - 8:06 a.m. | #

Do you think that the fence between the Southeastern and Crossrail tracks will remain? The type of protective fencing generally used on building sites is usually clearly temporary... this looks to be of a quite good quality and has an air of permanence.

Richard | 23.10.17 - 8:29 a.m. | #

Splendid pictures. And it's going to look really good when it's finished.

There are loads of stations with TfL involvement which still have ticket offices. And probably will continue to have for a good while.

The fencing looks to be better quality than on the typical roadside building site, granted, but there is an operational railway on one side of it, and Bob and Wendy the builders on the other. It doesn't look like stay-for-ever quality to me. And anyway, what would be the point?

Malcolm | 23.10.17 - 9:54 a.m. | #

Don't forget Crossness and seals are a quick bus ride away! Yes, us locals are very excited. :-)

Kathryn | Homepage | 23.10.17 - 10:17 a.m. | #

No mention of the 'E' word, excellent...

Geofftech | 23.10.17 - 10:27 a.m. | #

As you observe, Bexley now has a TfL-operated station, thus halving the number of London boroughs lacking such a facility.

timbo | 23.10.17 - 10:39 a.m. | #

Richard,

The fence is permanent. Its main purpose is to provide physical segregation so that one railway can be closed and safely worked on whilst trains continue to operate on the other railway.

It is probably wooden for aesthetic reasons and to deaden sound. Besides if (highly unlikely) the overhead wire touched it you don't get a very long potentially-lethal live fence.

Pedantic of Purley | 23.10.17 - 11:25 a.m. | #

A great round-up. It does look fantastic inside and approaching from the flyover. Top work by staff to get it ready (ish) on time.

A couple of concerns - the flyover outside is being reduced from two lanes each way (one bus and one general traffic) to just one. Buses could well back up coming from Thamesmead negating somwehat the speed increase of trains to Canary Wharf, the City etc.

Abbey Wood is already not too far from those (20ish mins Canary Wharf with train to Woolwich then DLR) and 30 mins to Cannon Street in the City.

The poor station-less folk in Thamesmead could find their bus takes 10+ mins longer to reach the station.

The other concern is how the station meets the existing area at street level. Most focus seems to have gone on people arriving by bus from elsewhere and not the town its actually located in. Large expanses of blank walls and facades could be an issue but we'll see.

FromTheMurkyDepths | Homepage | 23.10.17 - 11:26 a.m. | #

Thanks FTMD (your one-stop blog for all the latest local development updates).

Cutting the road width to one lane, which'll frequently be clogged by stopped buses, does sound like a poor upgrade to a key road link.

I'd best come back again and review the station after the 100-strong hi-vis army has gone away, particularly to understand the impact at ground floor level.

diamond geezer | Homepage | 23.10.17 - 12:08 p.m. | #

@timbo: Which borough is the sole remainder? Sutton or Kingston?

Patrickov | 23.10.17 - 2:30 p.m. | #

Ok it's Kingston... Sutton houses the depot of Tramlink apparently.

Patrickov | 23.10.17 - 2:35 p.m. | #

@Patrickov - Sutton also has two Tramlink stops

Bromley - the instigators of the "Fares Fair" court case, now has five Tramlink stops and three Overground stations

timbo | 23.10.17 - 3:05 p.m. | #

Thanks DG. Interesting the station has a retro ticket office. It may be the only "new" Crossrail station to do so?

dg writes: Farringdon's the other, apparently.

Jon B | 23.10.17 - 5:58 p.m. | #

Sheesh... how I wish you hadn't included that link to the 'Bexley is Bonkers' page.
It was 4 hours ago that I clicked on it... and I'm still reading it.
OMG.... :O

RogerW | 23.10.17 - 6:28 p.m. | #

Why would a footbridge need to be streamlined? It's not moving about, is it?

Temp | 24.10.17 - 10:38 a.m. | #

Does the first photo show the way out to the ferries? There seems to be a back-to-front crowsfoot as once used by Sealink. The perils of putting a logo on glass!

Andrew S | 24.10.17 - 10:38 p.m. | #

Sealink only used the back to front symbol on the starboard side of their ships - it is a common practice (although not universal) to use a reversed symbol on that side of a ship so it represents a flag as seen flying sternwards from a mast, (i.e seen from the reverse side) even though the symbol is actually painted on. Some military shoulder insignia follow the same pattern (e.g the US army), as did the earlier version of the British railways "Lion and Wheel" symbol, which had two versions, to be placed on opposite sides of steam locomotives so that the lion always faced forwards.

timbo | 25.10.17 - 4:16 p.m. | #

The reference to the concourse being 'the size of six tennis courts' is a most ungeezerlike measurement.

Unless, of course, we can look forward to a post on that very subject. If all those descriptions of something being the size of 'twelve Olympic swimming-pools' 'five football pitches', or 'the equivalent of fifty London buses' (which model?) are meant to help you form a picture of something large, they fail totally.

I can form an approximate mental images of the length of ONE cricket-pitch (a measurement still used by Network Rail on bridges and other lineside features). You could get 1,998,778 of them end to end on the equator and still have nearly three yards left for the wicket-keeper. But no-one can form a mental picture of that.

A wonderful blog (containing more words than.....the complete works of Shakespeare? The Bible? War and Peace?) full of discoveries.

Martin | 26.10.17 - 12:23 p.m. | #











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