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From your photos they look a lot like the new trains on the "overground".
As with them it seems that on the new Metropolitan Line trains comfort is being sacrificed so more passengers -sorry "customers"- can be squeezed in standing up.
John | 02.08.10 - 10:53 a.m. | #
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Its not that long ago that the main obsession with trains was to provide adequate heating and make them draught proof. And they say global warming is a myth!
logistical | Homepage | 02.08.10 - 1:04 p.m. | #
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Well the new stock looks nice. But curved glass on the front end might turn out to be a costly error.
The lack of decent seats and luggage space shows that TfL hasn't really accepted that the Metropolitan is a medium distance commuter service, not an inner city transit service. Passengers will be forced to spend the best part of an hour with their backs to the windows.
logistical | Homepage | 02.08.10 - 1:13 p.m. | #
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Surely air con is needed in the deep level trains like the Northern Line where one doesn't get a blast of fresh air every few minutes!
There is almost a palpable sigh as it emerges from the tunnel just after Hampstead and cool air rushes in at Golders Green! Or shudder, if it's winter! ;)
CornishCockney | 02.08.10 - 8:05 p.m. | #
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Londoners are finaly relieved from heatwaves
Kaka | Homepage | 02.08.10 - 8:08 p.m. | #
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Don't expect air con in any of the the deep level trains, not for a decade or two until technology improves. And don't blame Boris, blame the Victorians and Edwardians who dug too-narrow tunnels.
diamond geezer | Homepage | 02.08.10 - 8:19 p.m. | #
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I don't know that I've ever taken the Metropolitan line during trips to London, but looking at the before/after pictures linked above, it's striking how *sparse* the new carriages seem (in no small part because they were mostly empty, I suppose).
Josh | 02.08.10 - 9:20 p.m. | #
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Air-con only moves the heat outside - in deep level tubes that would make the stations unbearable while making little difference to anything but the quietest train because of passenger numbers and the short distances between stops.
Thats the reality im afraid.
Chris | 02.08.10 - 11:58 p.m. | #
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I've never been convinced by the one size fits all S stock, as the needs of Met customers are very different to the Circle Line. They should have created a sub class for the Met with a few more seats...
Mike C | 03.08.10 - 12:03 a.m. | #
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Worryingly, the Met design is a sub class with more seats. The stock that rolls out on the Circle, Hammersmith & City and District lines will have even fewer places to sit. Oh joy.
diamond geezer | Homepage | 03.08.10 - 12:08 a.m. | #
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Presumably the 'S' in 'S Stock' is short for 'Standing'. We have had this on the Southeastern since the roll-out of the Class 376 (Electrostar) stock. Plenty of room for standees, wheelchairs, buggies and bikes. In the end cars there is enough clear space to hold a football match or a small riot. The drawback is that the trains have only 40% of the seating capacity of the Class 465 (Networker) trains they displace.
The 376 also has a 15-second timeout on open doors (except for the 'raspberry ripple' doors at each end of the unit). This is very disconcerting until you get used to it.
Edwin Greenwood | Homepage | 03.08.10 - 7:31 a.m. | #
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i do wonder how far in advance you plan your blog!!! you must have amazing planning skills to understand the blogs needs of 2015 - do you have diary you jot down future events in so you don't forget they are coming up???
tim... | 03.08.10 - 9:34 a.m. | #
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Nice post.
Yes there are fewer seats but do these services fill up right away on the outer districts? Meaning that long journey passengers should be able to find a seat and there is more room standing in busy zones instead of being left at the platform. Remember most metro systems in world have even less seats and they are plastic or metal.
I know you are only joking but, bendy Boris train! these have got nothing to do with him. These trains were ordered nearly 10 years ago under metronet PPP
Geoff Brisbane | 04.08.10 - 1:25 a.m. | #
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