please empty your brain below

this is ridiculous. not one of the 20 or so bus stops I pass on a daily basis are on that flaming map

It'll be in place until after the Paralympics - and will be visible only from the upper deck of buses.

A viewpoint that is not generally available to many of the participants of the Paralympics.

this a great development for passer bys who want to get in the action. Cheers!

That's not even Cudham Village - that's a hamlet called Single Street, on the R8 minibus to Biggin Hill. It really is the middle of nowhere... and therefore deserves your vote :-)

I live in an area that hosted the Winter Olympics a few years ago, and they designed the tram shelters to commemorate not only the Olympic legacy but local history/culture too. It's a pleasure going downtown and being reminded each time you see one.

This sounds too sporadic and off the beaten track to make much impact at all. Surely they should be concentrating on the central London spots for the most impact?

Hi DG and readers, I'm from the Bus-Tops project and thought I'd chime in where I can to answer some of your comments.

@DG - as well as the general public deciding what art gets seen, there will be more established artists producing work, as well as curators (both guest and team) creating thematic arcs for both different regions and routes. You are right to point out that some shelters aren't served by double-deckers, and this is basically because whilst we have a dataset of the type of shelters we can use (2 bay Insignias) we haven't been able to merge these against a reliable database of routes. The Shelter map has been up for months, but in a closed testing beta for a handful of users, with it only actually opening on the 15th.

@peewit - unfortunately we are limited in what actual shelter types we can use; critically that they must be owned and managed by TFL Surface transport rather than Clearchannel or JCDecaux, and be a 2 Bay Insignia type.

@Ianvisits - this is the main concern people have, and is not physically dealable-with, only mitigate-able. The way we intend to do this is to have fully accessible viewing platforms and areas at TFL Surface transport Bus Stations, as well as to make all of the content created for the platform available both online, via mobile and API, as well as partnering with Urban screens networks both here and abroad.

@greg.tingley - our prototyping process has had anti-vandalism at it's core, so although there's no guarantee some arsehole's not going chuck bricks at an install we've taken (many) steps to ensure that a) it's really hard to damage and b) there are backups and redundancies in place.

@Cornishcockey - a big part of our reasoning to have at least one installation in each borough and in some cases 'off the beaten track' is because this is a project that wants to be co-opted, that invites locals to take ownership of their local install and use it. Another reason is that by threading multiple installs through different boroughs, bus travellers (and artists) can experience and create narrative threads that can be experienced on one route. The 29 bus route for example, running from Wood Green through to Elephant and castle. We could have focused on just central London as you say, but we're not that fussed about making an impact - we *are* fussed about including all of London and creating something both beautiful and useful.

Cheers folks, hope this helps with your thoughts in some way.

Alfie.

Thanks Alfie, and I hope this helps with your thoughts in some way too.

Thanks from me too, Alfie, for "greg.tingley" :)











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