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The link to the Elstree Shtiebel is broken, DG. And, my curiosity piqued, I had to go and find the site anyway. As a gentile, even the English reads like another language! An interesting window into another culture.
THC | 20.02.14 - 6:05 a.m. | #
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The link to the Elstree Shtiebel should now be fixed, sorry.
Visitors to the website should be aware that the homepage plays a Shtiebel song based on Come Dancing by The Kinks, adapted by Gershy Schwarcz & Hershele Rosenberg. It is indeed a fascinating-looking place of worship.
diamond geezer | Homepage | 20.02.14 - 6:51 a.m. | #
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I hope you went to Potters Bar next, would be a massive copout if you didn't.
MJ | 20.02.14 - 8:31 a.m. | #
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This bit of the journey is starting to remind me of one I made in 2005 - my (then) girlfriend had just moved to London, and I had come down for a visit. However, it was 7/7, so my train only went as far as Watford Junction, and I had to get to Turnpike Lane by bus. I think I managed it in 4, and definitely changed buses at Elstree, but it's a wonder I managed it without any mobile internet or much knowledge of north London.
martin | 20.02.14 - 8:55 a.m. | #
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Walford used to be the site of the ATV studios run by Lord Grade. Before Dirty Den and Angie arrived it was the home of Kermit and Miss Piggy!
kissenme | 20.02.14 - 9:22 a.m. | #
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@MJ
Could be the 307, but DG did say he had to get off at Barnet Church, and if it was the 307 he could have stayed on to New Barnet.
The 34 goes all the way from Barnet to Walthamstow, but is probably too far from the boundary.
No - I think you're right and we're next going up the old Great North Road. But DG could be bluffing.
timbo | 20.02.14 - 10:50 a.m. | #
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Ah, the 107. In my distant youth, I used to go plane-spotting at Heathrow with my mate Jon, using the 107 from Enfield to Queensbury then the 140 from Queensbury to Heathrow Central. You have to use 4 buses now... Meanwhile, my routing guess is the 84 (a very old route) to Barnet, then the 313 to Enfield (another very old route - now the oldest route running through Enfield). However, he may opt to stay in Hertfordshire on the 242 all the way to Waltham Cross.
Also a missed opportunity to point out that the letterbox of Barnet Church is the same height above sea level as the top od St Paul's Cathedral.
Steve | 20.02.14 - 11:37 a.m. | #
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The 107 doesn't appear to be added to the "map of my journey so far", but it's pretty easy to figure it out from the description.
CornishCockney | 20.02.14 - 11:47 a.m. | #
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Google Maps appears to have split the route and started a second page on which 107 sits (currently) alone. This wasn't at all obvious when I viewed the page on my tablet, but now I'm looking at it on a 'proper' screen, that appears to be the case.
No doubt DG will find a way to fix it!
Rob | 20.02.14 - 12:47 p.m. | #
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Steve - I agree that those are the most obvious choices but I can't hep wondering if DG is going to find some way (National Express?) to travel along the M25 where it acts as the London border.
Whiff | 20.02.14 - 1:29 p.m. | #
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Damn, I meant 84 to Potter's Bar, not to Barnet... I'm not sure there's a practical way to do the M25 by National Express
Steve | 20.02.14 - 1:56 p.m. | #
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@Steve
242 (well, that one) is not on the London bus map, presumably because it never enters Greater London, but it looks an intriguing possiblity.
If DG uses the 313 from Potters Bar, he would surely take it further than Enfield? He has little other choice about crossing the Lea unless he goes right in to the North Circular Road, (in which case he can take the 34 all the way from Barnet!)
timbo | 20.02.14 - 2:26 p.m. | #
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I like these descriptions of dipping in and out of the metropolis.
Nit pick: to the east of Stirling Corner, Barnet Lane becomes Barnet Road.
dg writes: Nit pick fixed, thanks.
Bob Lindsay-Smith | 20.02.14 - 2:39 p.m. | #
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..............if it is going to be the 84, what time will DG post it? Perhaps a bit of a lie-in in prospect?
timbo | 20.02.14 - 4:14 p.m. | #
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A good thing you didn't pass through Elstree in the rush hour...
From 1998 to 2002 I used to work near Stirling Corner. Half an hour in the queue for Elstree lights was not unusual, whether I approached from Brockley Hill or Bushey Heath - often after another long queue at either Edgware or Bushey Heath.
I was glad when the office moved to London Colney and I could get past the problem areas before the traffic built up.
Stephen Bird | 20.02.14 - 4:32 p.m. | #
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Meh, Google Maps.
I've squeezed the entire map back onto a single page by deleting most of the stops and just leaving the buses.
Meh, Google Maps.
diamond geezer | Homepage | 20.02.14 - 5:54 p.m. | #
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What is now the Elstree Shtiebel was The 'Choke, the haunt for fifth- and sixth-formers at my secondary school to go drinking back in the day.
Carlbob | Homepage | 20.02.14 - 6:42 p.m. | #
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The Thorpe Park bus is only an internal borrow - it belongs to Sullivans who run local (not pink an purple - they are Uno) buses here, as well as the Thorpe Park service nowhere near here!
Eric | 20.02.14 - 9:48 p.m. | #
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More stats
seven of the sixteen buses have been double deckers: the oldest (assuming the buses in the photos were the ones used) were the 03 plated vehicles operating the 412 and the U3, the newest the 60-plate on the R11. (Not counting the 216, whose number plate was not visible in the photo). Average age is eight years old (06 plate).
Coincidentally, the three buses used on the cross-London odyssey whose registrations I could make out in the photos also averaged 2006 as their year of registration. They averaged 10.2 mph - this suburban circuit is managing a bit better.
timbo | 20.02.14 - 10:57 p.m. | #
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I think the map works better without all the bus symbols anyway - they obscured a lot of the detail. What criterion decided which ones to keep?
timbo | 20.02.14 - 11:47 p.m. | #
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