please empty your brain below

Rebecca's exclamation marks: what a toe-curling way to start my day. I'm with F. Scott Fitzgerald, using them is like laughing at your own jokes.

Do you really reply to them?

I feel that encourages them (some response is better than no response if they have to collect stats on their approaches for their boss), so, like trolls, I just ignore them and press the delete button.

Actually I like the Shepherd's Pie idea.

As for Bishop's Gate, how many gates are there in London and could you do random ones?

@Blue Witch

If you don't reply to the offers saying "No thanks", then you remain on their contact lists as a potential target and keep getting emails offering dubious offers as an inducement to offer them unpaid publicity.

Worst are the contact list database peddlers - once you are on their systems, it can be a right pain to get off again.

I wonder how many responses Victoria will get from your readers?

Have a snack....or have sex.

Hmmm, tough call.

Ian - I don't believe that saying no to them takes you off their lists (not least because of how the lists are compiled/sold). From my experience, it's more likely to lead to you staying on because one day you *will* give in, when the right offer, at the right (or wrong) time, at the right 'price' comes along.

Almost everyone has their price. DG doesn't, I don't, but there aren't too many of us around in this media-driven, faceless Facebook encouraged, attention-span-of-a-gnat, vacuous world.

Thanks for this morning's LOL, DG.

I think Richard's "insult them into complying" approach must be the least effective one I've seen.

Richard you "PR"

Oddly enough, as I read this, I found a promotional e-mail in my inbox too. I guess they never learn, do they?

Interesting that you say you don't promote stuff. I think you do promote things but you only ever do it on your own terms when you've had good service or a good time. For those few businesses, attractions or events that do get your endorsement it would be interesting to see if they see a boost in business after your writings.

dg writes: I don't promote stuff if prompted.
That's the key thing.


Hmmm, the snack people have obviously never heard of Marianne Faithfull's novel use of a Mars Bar.....

It does make me wonder what they would do if you did accept their offers of gratuities, and then decided you didn't like what they were promoting, and said so on your blog. Can they take back all their free taxi rides?

Blimey, you REALLY don't like that new camera, do ya?


DM? Does that mean "Diamond Mail"?

Thirty odd years ago, when I first arrived in London, I carried with me a battered old paperback called something like Alternative/Free London. It explained how to squat a house, make a free phone call, collect mega-cheap off-cuts from salmon-smoking shops, travel on the bus for free, etc.

Assuming, perhaps, that all readers were male, it also suggested one should obtain a jacket and tie, shorthand pad and pen, and make weekly visits to the local library. Once there the reader should consult the "Investors Chronicle & Stock Exchange Gazette", copy down the location and times of all forthcoming shareholder meetings in the City for the following week and attend as many as they wished.

Shareholder meetings, AGMs, etc would be most often held between 10am and 3pm Monday to Friday and, at each meeting, there would be generous supplies of freshly cut sandwiches, cakes, tea, wine, beer and "condiments". Posing as either a journalist or shareholder one could attend several shareholder meetings each day and, with deep pockets, obtain enough provisions to keep you and your friends fed for the remainder of the day. High profile funerals (and their wakes/receptions afterwards) were another source of free refreshment.

The really enterprising characters even had business cards printed and claimed to work for fictional publications such as The Forest Gate Recorder or Le Monde de Nantes. Thus armed (the business card) they would join bona fide journalists on "Jollies" such as you describe in your post. The Jollies were invariably organised by super posh PR ladies who were indifferent to their clients and had gigantic budgets to hand.

Soon after I became a bona fide journalist I tired of these Jollies and "free" lunches and yearned to be left alone, to write.

But it is encouraging to know that the Freebies and Jollies remain available. I hope, given these austere times, that needy and enterprising people avail themselves of these wonderful perks (along with organisations such as Freegle). It is one of the benefits of living in London and could, perhaps, be a valid subject for a posting, (perhaps by someone more venal and with fewer scruples than our incorruptible DG.)

Admire your integrity DG.

@Antipodean

Depending on how you define "gate" gives you a different answer.

The smallest number is 6 - the original Roman gates of the City. A broader defintion of anything that is or was a gate or has "gate" in the name gives at least 24 places:

Aldersgate
Aldgate
Barnet Gate
Billingsgate
Bishopsgate
Broadgate
Cripplegate
Dowgate
Forest Gate
Greengate
Highgate
Holborn Bar
Lancaster Gate
Ludgate
Marks Gate
Moorgate
New Cross Gate
New Southgate
Newgate
Notting Hill Gate
Posterngate (Tower of London)
Southgate
Temple Bar
Tower Gateway

Although finding enough to write about some of these would be a challenge.

Oh thank you Chris M! After I posted that I did a google search and came up with the original six and thought ..nah. So it is good to know that there are some more. I actually reckon a DG tour of them would be fascinating. Another idea I had was somehow to randomise a guide to London written before the War, looking at what were tourist attractions then, and how they have changed now (or indeed if they are still there). But thanks again for a list of the gates.

DG has written about every piece of work I've done in the last two years.
He has no idea who I am or what I do, and I have never approached him for feedback. However, his insight has been invaluable to me and those I work with. Very useful indeed.
If what you do or who you work for is interesting enough, worthy of criticism, - both productive and negative - or heaven forbid, praise - he'll find it by himself. If it isn't, don't bother. And as for PRs - AARRGGHHHHHH!!!!!

Now there's an uplifting, and marvellously mysterious comment.

I shall attempt to carry on writing about your pieces of work, whatever they are.

(it must be that transport-related thing, mustn't it?) (unless it's that other non-transport-related thing)

I hope you visit the DG exhibition.

http://www.wilsonwilliamsgallery.com/diamondgeezer.htm

( but if someone from the gallery asked you to visit would you go ?

Oddly enough, Jon, somebody from the gallery did ask me, precisely two minutes before you posted that comment. What are the chances?

actually, that was me, from my work email account. I made a typo and omitted a rather crucial NOT..

I saw some of the photos on BBC site.
..
but if I had been from the gallery would you deliberately not go ?

DG - I think you'd be honestly astounded by how much sway your opinion has on what I do. Things get addressed if you comment on them. How's that for unrelised power!











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