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I wonder if the bad positioning is actually deliberately clever

The only way to see the sign is to move down the platform... and away from the entrance, so its location has a subtle effect of encouraging people not to linger by the entrance and block it.

Or maybe I am being overly generous.

IanVisits | Homepage | 25.02.13 - 8:43 a.m. | #

Maybe it's just designed to avoid showing how shocking the Bakerloo Line service is?

Colin | 25.02.13 - 6:51 p.m. | #

...but where would you put it? Or do you want to have more (and have less £ for x other thing)

AC | 25.02.13 - 8:06 p.m. | #

Not half as annoying as some of the next train indicators at Richmond, which are installed up in the eaves of the platform roof, obscured by ironmongery unless you are within a couple of metres of them.

sykobee | 26.02.13 - 8:51 a.m. | #

To clarify the Richmond issue, there are 5 platforms that District and Overground trains leave from. When there are two trains in, you need to be able to see which one is going to leave next - there's nothing worse (commuting-wise) than committing to a train and then seeing the other one leave.

Luckily they have installed a separate monitor with the next train service on it. Of course it is located in an awkward position for people switching from the mainline train service, so you have to walk one way, and look backwards to read it.

sykobee | 26.02.13 - 8:55 a.m. | #

Not just the Bakerloo there are many platforms on all lines where the Train Indicator is blocked from view by other signs.

dg writes: A few years ago we spent an entire week discussing this...

Agent Z | 26.02.13 - 2:13 p.m. | #

I suppose it's the task of municipal transportation committees to make hiding critical signage job #1.

Here in Seattle I'd like to give out the award for the best job of hiding the underground transit entrances to the local officials, who have managed to HIDE the existence of the bus tunnel so that even a native, like myself, who has lived here for decades CANNOT find it! Congrats! Hope they get a big bonus.

Not only is the sign hidden in an alcove.... but it's also cleverly disguised as 'art' so that no one can actually read it. I go downtown every few months and I still can't find it. I feel sorry for the asian tourists looking for it.

jon | Homepage | 26.02.13 - 7:33 p.m. | #

Yes there was a debate on this and the Cretin Committee that made the decision. The obscured view at Holborn (Picadilly East bound platform) gets worse as you move away from the entrance. Even if you bend your body to attempt a view whilst waiting at either end of the platform-you can barely see it (and you look stupid).

I had hoped the Cretin Committee would read the posts and move the viewing blockages....but no. The Cretin Committees' decisions are increasing throughout the tube network.

This did irritate me but I have conducted my own experiments on timing and realise the indicators don't tell the truth anyway. So my irritation level at this decision by the Cretin Committe is much reduced, although my cumulative irritation level at stupid decisions by cretins is still rather high.

Amused | 27.02.13 - 5:16 p.m. | #











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