please empty your brain below
"In future cyclists will be held back..."
That'll be a first for anywhere! I assume the mechanism will be traffic lights which cyclists so widely ignore.

dg writes: Sweeping generalisations about cyclists aren't especially welcome, thanks.

Tim | 18.02.15 - 8:05 a.m. | #

Gosh! Who thought of this scheme? Letting pedestrians cross safely,by making cyclists and other traffic stop at red lights? It' s like a fantasy world................

Jo W | 18.02.15 - 8:21 a.m. | #

Similar system just introduced at the slightly less complicated Tolworth Underpass on the A3. Pedestrians previously had to use subways.

MH

Mike Hill | 18.02.15 - 9:16 a.m. | #

This plan sounds similar to what we have in west London on the roundabout under the Chiswick flyover, where the A4 crosses/joins the A406 North Circular and another local road. Here we don't have any fancy blue cycle tracks, so pedestrians AND cyclists are invited to cross to the centre of the roundabout, protected by traffic lights at intervals round the island, and sent on their way across nice gravel paths and past sculptural art works. It seems to work and I've never felt unable to get across this junction safely, unlike at Bow. The traffic seems to flow reasonably freely as well.

ActonMan | 18.02.15 - 11:02 a.m. | #

The only solution to London's congestion problems will be the invention of flying cars.

On a related note, the closure of Putney bridge was the best 3 months around Hammersmith as there was no traffic on Fulham palace road.

psg | 18.02.15 - 1:03 p.m. | #

Significant that the location for the consultation is in a building that's in the middle of the road and only accessible by signal-controlled pedestrian crossings.

ActonMan | 18.02.15 - 2:40 p.m. | #

I wonder what the latest fatality and injury statistics are for the Bow Roundabout.

A prediction: they will rise after the scheme is introduced, and thay will stay at this elevated level unless and the motorists who kill and injure pedestrians by mowing them down on pedestrian crossings are prosecuted for jumping the red light.

At present, very few are even investigated, even when their registration is captured on camera; fewer still are prosecuted.

Nile | 18.02.15 - 5:22 p.m. | #

Through my letterbox today, a four page letter from Tfl outlining the consultation plans, plus a double-sided A3 colour map.

Coming hot on the heels of a 12 page colour booklet about the CS2 upgrade, the Consultations Team at TfL are doing some mighty fine dissemination work at the moment.

diamond geezer | Homepage | 18.02.15 - 6:00 p.m. | #

I imagine the long term vision will create the Bow version of the Euston Cross junction near Warren Street. It'll have a large holding area for vehicle movements but convenient crossing for pedestrians and cycles. It will be interesting to see quite what is done with the land if / when the viaduct is taken down. More ludicrously priced flats overlooking the A12?

PC | 18.02.15 - 8:24 p.m. | #

There was a similar pedestrian scheme promised when they installed the new traffic signals at the next junction along the A12 at the Old Ford Exit, this involved removal of the existing pedestrian crossing in Wick lane (in order not to delay any VIP guests to the Olympics who would be entering the Olympic site via the VIP entrance in Wick lane) but we were told that we would have to wait for the "Pedestrian Crossing Phase" of it to be implemented until after the Olympics were over, two and a half years later we are still waiting.

Fishislandskin | 18.02.15 - 9:02 p.m. | #

I have to cross from N to S, to head down towards Bromley-by-Bow station, and this plan expects me at one point to be going in the opposite direction when using the crossings. Yeah...I'm not doing that.

Ghostface | 18.02.15 - 10:22 p.m. | #

Ghostface, if you're going as far as Bromley-by-Bow station, it might be easier to cross from N to E, and cross the A12 at the underpass near Tesco. But maybe you don't mean you're going that far.

Jonathan D | 19.02.15 - 10:40 p.m. | #

It ain't pretty (or particularly convenient, or coming soon enough). But, as you point out, finally, the idea that pedestrians might be allowed to cross this in safety is being recognised. For that, at least, I'm grateful.

Harry | 21.02.15 - 10:29 p.m. | #

I've been crossing this dreadful roundabout as a pedestrian for the last 10 years, and guess that like me the majority of pedestrians use the yellow route to get from Bow Road to Stratford High Street (or the canal path) and back. It's the yellow crossings that need to be properly pedestrianised. I doubt many will be persuaded to walk onto the roundabout and walk to the far side, only to cross back over again. Makes no sense to me.

BowDog | 28.02.15 - 1:49 p.m. | #











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