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Interesting. I do agree that Hertfordshire's buses are expensive. I often pay around £2 to travel from Cheshunt town centre to the edge of the town, a distance of no more than a mile or two. Quite hefty, when that same £2 can get me some distance around London on TfL's bus routes.

You should have used national cycle route 12 - a very pleasant cycle route / footpath that bypasses the roundabout just to the right of it. It even has it's own bridge under the M25 and its own dedicated cycle slip road that leads into the services. I've used it and got a few odd looks as I locked my bike up outside the entrance to the services to get a coffee!

http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/2324598

It's not only Hertfordshire where that happens.

South Mimms used to be the terminus of the 'real' 242 - a very pleasant London bus route around the periphery of London to Chingford. Its downfall was that it ran through three counties - Herts, Essex and London, and the authorities couldn't agree on what each should pay to subsidise the service. Consequently, in the late 80s, it was shortened to run between Potters Bar and Waltham Cross, as it does today. It ceased to be a 'London' bus route, and the number was used to re-number the 22B, itself a foreshortening of the cross-London 22 route.

The 84 is a commercial service operated by Metroline (in London it runs under a London Local Service Agreement). Hence in theory the fares represent what the market will bear. In practice, there is no competition along the 84 route - except an hourly 398 operated by Sullivan Buses between South Mimms and Potters Bar - so Metroline can charge wjhat they like. Are Herts fares expensive, or are London fares cheap ? Discuss !

I wonder if it would have been more cost-effective to buy a ticket from South Mimms to Barnet...

(and at least Metroline let you use Oyster cards at all in Potters Bar, unlike First C*apital Connect who couldn't get TfL to give them enough money so said "screw you" and don't accept them!)

(or if you'd walked down the St Albans Road, or the aforementioned lovely footpath that runs under the M25, by that small stream you earlier mentioned, then up near Trotters Bottom) you could have got on a lovely pink double decker bus that would have taken you to Barnet for probably much cheaper (and used to accept Oyster cards until TfL said "sorry, no")!

The "pink" buses, run by "uno" (Universitybus as was) are, if I've understood their website, a flat £2 fare, or £5 for an all-day rover.

Never thought you´d write something about any place I know well and here we are. Number 84 bus used to take me to school. There was no Oyster card back then though.











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