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Number 12 has been done so so so much better, and not by Simon Patterson, and using the Paris Metro map. This predates him by a few years. I wonder...
http://www.undergroundcathedral.com/img/05arts/lb2.htm
http://www.undergroundcathedral.com/img/05arts/lb3.htm
http://www.undergroundcathedral.com/
Max Roberts | Homepage | 16.06.10 - 10:04 a.m. | #
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Number three is not too bad...
Leuconoe | 16.06.10 - 10:11 a.m. | #
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Copyright on the Underground Cathedral is 2002. Simon Patterson's The Great Bear dates from 1992, so I'm not sure you could say it predates him. I also don't think it's better, although of course that's a matter of taste.
No.3 is definitely my favourite.
Baldassaro | 16.06.10 - 12:17 p.m. | #
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you can only apply to enter if you have outlook, I don't so can't.
tim | 16.06.10 - 12:34 p.m. | #
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Baldassaro, I think that you are confusing the date of the website with the date of the design of the pieces. Had you looked through the web pages, you would have found various press clippings. I have one in front of me from Artweek, May 17, 1986, clearly showing the stained galss map. Always better to do your research properly before accusing other people of being wrong.
Abrams at least demonstrates glasswork skills.
Max Roberts | Homepage | 16.06.10 - 12:52 p.m. | #
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I do love 3. Must be my age.
Jan Jones | Homepage | 16.06.10 - 3:41 p.m. | #
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Max Roberts, I stand corrected.
However, I've never quite got this "an artist needs to show manual skills" thing. After all, he or she provides the ideas, not necessarily the execution. You wouldn't expect a composer to be able to play every instrumental part in a symphony, for example (Berlioz, famously, could only play the flute and guitar, fairly badly). There are plenty of people who can draw or paint well. There are far fewer who can create interesting art.
Baldassaro | 16.06.10 - 5:08 p.m. | #
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It certainly helps the credibility of an artist if at least some of his/her work does not evoke the response "I could have done that". Writing a rejoinder to "Symphonie Fantastique" is something that I most certainly could not do, even if I studied music for twenty years (although as a direct response to the point: Bach played many many instruments, but the quality of his solo writing is generally held to be related to how well he could play the instrument). On the other hand, coming up with the idea of an RAF logo and then cutting and pasting it is most certainly something I could do. Likewise, once the general concept is discovered (the first time, it was clever, as per Frederick Abrams), opening up an Underground map in Illustrator and mucking about with the station names, which has become such a tired old cliché that I am amazed that anyone claiming to be a serious artist has the audacity to do it. Creative interesting thoughts implemented in a technically accomplished way would stand head and shoulders over most of these covers.
Max Roberts | Homepage | 16.06.10 - 5:57 p.m. | #
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By the way, do these remind anyone of anything?
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/25/66012372_e8956cbb35.jpg
http://www.solbrig.de/london_tube_map.htm
Max Roberts | Homepage | 16.06.10 - 6:19 p.m. | #
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@tim - what makes you think that you can only enter if you use Outlook?
rg | 16.06.10 - 6:34 p.m. | #
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Number 8 - the small print on the back of the map says that the image was reproduced under licence from the Ministry of Defence. And yet LU says that it was a commissioned piece of work - so how much was spent on it?
Marc | 16.06.10 - 9:35 p.m. | #
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number 0
sid | 16.06.10 - 10:11 p.m. | #
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@rg i emailed them to complain and they have now updated the site.
tim | 17.06.10 - 1:29 a.m. | #
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My, you are all very grumpy about this. Is this the TfL effect? I like number 6, both the subject and the rendition.
Tea Girl | 17.06.10 - 5:58 a.m. | #
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Well done tim.
TfL have also extended the deadline by a week (which is usually a sure sign that not enough people have voted yet).
diamond geezer | Homepage | 17.06.10 - 7:48 a.m. | #
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4 & 5 may just be simple images rendered in tube colours but I really like the ideas behind both of them, which is what makes them work as art for me. Especially number 5.
Geoff | Homepage | 17.06.10 - 9:54 a.m. | #
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1, 3 or 6.
1 is a nice little piece of OpArt, don't knock it.
Babs | 17.06.10 - 11:43 a.m. | #
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And of course, in times gone by, people produced works of art inspired by the Underground that didn't look like they had been knocked up on illustrator in five minutes.
http://educativecity.wordpress.com/2008/10/12/the-rhythms-of-modern-life/
Max Roberts | Homepage | 17.06.10 - 12:28 p.m. | #
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