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This is good news and something that to me at least has come as some what of a surprise, I was certain they were going to make it permanent whatever the outcome of what the public wanted, but as you say "sometimes responding to a public consultation does actually work.
Fishislandskin | 10.03.16 - 11:48 a.m. | #
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Should we take this at face value and be pleased, or cynical, seeing as the consultation for withdrawing the 13 was itself withdrawn ahead of elections last year?
| 10.03.16 - 12:05 p.m. | #
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I hope that doesn't have a detrimental effect on bus stop M!
Rob | 10.03.16 - 12:54 p.m. | #
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So it's goodbye to those speedy runs over the Bow flyover and back to sitting in traffic waiting for the lights to change...and change...
Kim | 10.03.16 - 12:54 p.m. | #
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Swings and roundabouts...
diamond geezer | Homepage | 10.03.16 - 1:05 p.m. | #
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From reading the consultation docs, an interesting thing was that the invitation to participate was only distributed to homes in the near vicinity of the flyover.
Surely that gives a disproportionately larger number of people who would be negatively affected by the change, compared to surveying people living further along the route in (say) Stratford or Mile End, who would benefit from the faster journeys?
Moogal | 10.03.16 - 2:36 p.m. | #
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Be careful what you wish for:
In order to counteract the slower times transversing the roundabout at ground level TFL have carried out a full review of all bus stops along the route and have decided that all stops between Stratford and Mile End will be discontinued.
Agent Z | 10.03.16 - 3:07 p.m. | #
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Everybody living in the western half of the leaflet circulation zone stood to gain from route 25 speeding over the flyover. Nevertheless, 'No' was the resounding result of the consultation.
Making a temporary disadvantage permanent was the injustice here.
I'll be content so long as the phasing of the lights at the Bow Roundabout doesn't continue to lead to unnecessary traffic jams once the modernisation work is complete.
diamond geezer | Homepage | 10.03.16 - 4:07 p.m. | #
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Maybe time for a (express) X25 route to be introduced!
OnTheBus | 10.03.16 - 4:27 p.m. | #
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@OnTheBus - Good idea! Better still, one with no bus stops and no passengers allowed on. It is those that slow it down you know.
Agent Z | 10.03.16 - 4:42 p.m. | #
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Any express bus service needs to be able to overtake the slower version, the 607 does this because most of it is along wide roads.
If it can't do this then it gets stuck behind an all-stops 25 because it struggles to get a gap in the traffic to overtake, this is what happened on the X43.
| 10.03.16 - 6:36 p.m. | #
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@ Agent Z
Seemed a good idea when I used the X68
OnTheBus | 10.03.16 - 9:59 p.m. | #
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Wow. TfL listened? Maybe every journey does matter?
Kirk | 11.03.16 - 7:28 a.m. | #
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"Any express bus service needs to be able to overtake the slower version"
Well, if this is just an express-lite at the flyover area, there is room to overtake. Is there anywhere where the potential delay/time saving is documented? With buses every 3 minutes, there's room to make half the buses 'express over flyover (or maybe a little beyond)' if doing so saves 6 minutes (by saving, I mean relative time saving, including the longer dwell time at the ground-level stops). It might also be worth accepting that bunching will naturally happen at such a frequency, and find ways to work with this (for example, at peak times, let the X25 be soon after the 25, so that people know/learn it's quicker to catch it).
Robert | 11.03.16 - 9:19 p.m. | #
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