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"flags of countries not participating in the Games"

I wonder if this is referring to English, Scottish and Welsh flags? A ban on St George's Crosses would be nice (both in the context of the Olympics and in general).

Sorry for double-comment, but I think you've misread 19.6.3.

1) Images, video & sound recordings can only be used for private domestic purposes.

2) Video and sound recordings may not be published, including on social networking sites.

3) Images, video and sound recordings may not be used for commercial purposes.

So you *can* upload photos to the Internet non-commercially, but not movies.

7am update: You're right john, uploading photos will be fine, so I've updated the post, thanks.

Plenty of large flags in evidence at the recently released images of how the venues will look: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12473037

And you're telling me that I cannot take a bottle of water into the venues? This is London in August - it maybe a little on the warm side!

Britain takes another step towards totalitarianism. Welcome to the games Big Brother.

But what are you going to take photos/movies with? Your phone and your large camera bag will have been confiscated.

I think the organisers underestimate the humour of the mob here - not able to take bread and water into the circuses for all the little Emperors indeed.

Err - just remind me again how much I am, as a British taxpayer,putting into this exercise? Is it more than, the same as, or less than the sponsors, whom I presume will be qualifying for a batch of free tickets? How many such free tickets will be distributed to the British public? I didn't realise Ryanair were a sponsor but their fingerprints appear to be all over this. Is there not something called the Unfair Terms and Conditions act 1977 that might be invoked. The prospect of the Olympics being overwhelmed by members of the "You will retain 100% of the compensation" whip lash lawyers association is one to savour.Personally I have always favoured the reintroduction of gladitorial combat to the arena - perhaps my wish will come true.

The question now is whether one can find a policeman when one needs one but whether one can find a full blooded civil liberian.

No mention of fancy dress, so beloved of male test match cricket spectators of a particular age. Probably the ballot ticketing system precludes any co-ordinated attempt to bring scores of nuns, Flinstones or Queen Elizabeth IIs to any particular event. It would make the occasion particularly English-British though.

How long are the queues to get in going to be?

If, from yesterday's post, they are checking ever ticket to make sure that the person who bought it is amongst the group, or has legitimately sold it on the offical site, and they are going to search/confiscate/cope with ensuing arguments, then expect empty stadia.

What a charade.

> More interestingly, I wonder if London 2012 can stop them.

You don't have to be able to stop them uploading. You just have to be able to persuade YouTube to takedown whatever they upload. And YuoTube are pretty compliant with lawyers.


I know it's your blog, and you can write what you like, but I'm beginning to suffer withdrawal symptoms for non-Olympic stuff...

dg writes: Advance warning - I really wouldn't bother reading in July/August 2012.

you know what? i have NO idea what 'LOCOG' stands for. brilliant.

Thanks dg:
Even more reasons to avoid going there while the Olympics are on.

Been reading your blog for about a week now, since tipped onto it by a friend. Really appreciating the work you're doing going through the small print, cos it's damned hard to find this stuff on the website.

Re: Mobile phones - surely they're trying to counter the sort of absolute t**t who takes a mobile to a sporting venue, doesn't turn it off, doesn't put it on silent, and has their phone ring during a crucial point? I am interested in attending the Archery, a sport I also participate in, and I am fully aware that a phone going off at the wrong point could mean the difference between winning a medal and going home with nothing. I would fully expect that at the Archery Events I would b at the very least expected to have my mobile on silent.

Of course, my phone is a "smartphone" and so is therefore useless as a phone. It's a brilliant camera though, probably better than my little digital camera. I do hope they won't confiscate it from me...

Oh, and to the person above - LOCOG stands for "London Organising Committee of the Olympic Games". :)

geofftech

LOCOG stands for The London Organising Committee of the Olympic Games.

Well I'm not going if I can't bring my fridge with me..... oh no, I had no intention of going anyway.

On the last one, whilst it does seem like it's a yes to Flickr, presumably if you put the photos under a creative commons license, which I tend to with most of mine, you'll be breaking the rules by 'licens[ing]...on social networking websites'.

So, even though you're not using them for profit, and just making them available for other bloggers etc, you could be squaring up for a fight with the Olympic machine.

There's one flag in particular that the organisers are keen to keep out so as not to upset a major participant. The flag of Tibet.

That's less about Tibet and more about the Chinese government's propensity to throw a strop at the slightest provocation.

The video one in itself is amazingly backward thinking. After all, are the BBC, NBC etal going to be threatened by some terrible quality, shakily held mobile phone footage? No. Not in one bit.

But stuff that. What about all the sponsors? You know, the ones who have paid so much to be there?

The ones whose logos would inevitably appear in the amateur footage. Lots of nice free publicity. Banned.


On the other hand, this will at least save the world from millions of dreadful quality video clips cluttering up YouTube.

"The flag of Tibet"

Brilliant. I knew there'd be some non-insane (albeit craven) reason for the flag rule.

But the prohibition is on the flag of any *countries* not participating in the Games. Surely the official (ie Chinese) line on Tibet is that it's a "province-level autonomous region", not a country? So this prohibition doesn't apply to Tibet...

Hmmm. Clearly DG's cunning plan is to put off everybody else from applying so that he can win ALL the tickets to the games. I've already been ruled out by yesterday's post, as my Visa card expires too soon and I'm buggered if I'm going to get a new one. Which is a shame because I would like to go, I'm just not sure I'm prepared to hand in my self-respect at the door in order to do so, along with everything else.

The more I read about the London games the more relieved I feel that I'll be having nothing to do with them.

Dome...Wembley....Olympics

Welcome to the land of the farce.

Golly, what a depressing place this blog is becoming. If it's not the endless moaning about the Olympics (of which I could care less), it's the lengthy (and rather dull) expositions on UK Bank Holidays and daylight saving arrangements.

I very much enjoy DG's geographical and transport themed posts, and hope they will become more prominent again in future. I certainly won’t be sticking around for another 18-odd months of Olympics bashing though. There’s enough of that in the inkie / flickering media.


To be fair from the start of March there has only been the past three days posts on the Olympics, two posts on bank holidays and one on daylight savings.

The beauty of this blog is it's like Forrest Gump's box of chocolates, you never know what you are going to get.

Alan wrote: "And you're telling me that I cannot take a bottle of water into the venues? This is London in August - it maybe a little on the warm side!"

I had dispose of my bottle of water out at the gates before entering at the Paul McCartney concert in the July desert sun of Salt Lake City last year, so I think it very likely you'll have to do the same!!

I think the pertinent words concerning the confiscating of advertising and promotional material is "large quantities". No they won't nab your oyster wallet, they just don't want people handing out promotional leaflets, coupons, religious tracts etc, and fair enough.


I managed to get a bottle of water in to Wembley Arena once. Partly because it was a metal bottle. But also because they didn't check.

mwmbwls said; 'The question now is whether one can find a policeman when one needs one but whether one can find a full blooded civil liberian.'

Charles Taylor?


I wonder if they could object to bottled water if you disperse a couple of Aspirin in it. No one can honestly expect me to proof its medical indication when I'm arriving at the Olympic Park with a common headache.

The liquids ban is completely insane.

Fortunately, the mainstream press have FINALLY noticed just what an ghastly authoritarian shambles this is becoming.
Start with THIS PIECE

Excellent work in going through the fine print. You missed highlighting one, though:
"printed matter bearing religious, political or offensive content or content contrary to public order and/or morality". These are separate categories; let me spell this out. All of the following are in theory banned, and can be removed from you at the gate: a) printed material that bears religious content; b) printed material that bears political content; c) printed material that bears offensive content; d) printed material that bears content contrary to public order; e) printed material that bears content contrary to morality. For example, a) Bibles or Korans or indeed the tefillin that observant Jewish men are required to wear; b) most newspapers (though I guess The Star would be OK); c) most tabloids (especially The Star); d) printed Sex Pistols Tshirts proclaiming Anarchy in the UK; sexualised slogans on children's Tshirts ("Porn Star in the Making" etc.). Great headlines when gatekeepers turn away someone passing the time in the queue innocently reading Mike Coles's The Bible in Cockney, for local East End colour, innit. And will books count as "printed material" if they are on an e-reader?

As the Guardian pointed out today, the infamous clock is wrong even when it's running. It was set going at 7:30pm GMT 500 days before the opening ceremony, and is set to reach zero 12000 hours later. But the opening ceremony is at 7:30 on an August evening, when we're on BST (or double BST if some campaigners get their way!) The clock will only reach zero an hour after the opening ceremony!

mwmbls: "The question now is whether one can find a policeman when one needs one but whether one can find a full blooded civil liberian. "

I have never met a liberian who wasn't civil ;-)

Rest of media now catching up...

Games organisers said the list was a "base case" set of terms.

A Locog spokesman said: "In many cases, decisions have not been made on what will or will not be allowed into venues.

"When tickets are issued the final terms and conditions will be made clear to ticketholders."
(BBC News)











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