dg comments

please empty your brain below

This applies to quite a few cars as well.

Debster | 31.10.06 - 7:57 a.m. | #

The dangerous and suicidal behaviour that amber gamblers and red shredders exhibit makes we wonder where (neo) Darwinian evolution will take bike genes.

strandman | Homepage | 31.10.06 - 8:02 a.m. | #

They are a menace. I think they should have a number plate for identification purposes and pay insurance. They won't jump lights when they get points, and their insurance rockets.

Pedestrian Fan | 31.10.06 - 8:06 a.m. | #

Of course, this assumes they're on the road. Here in London, you have to watch out for cyclists on the pavement.

I do feel slightly sorry for them because, in many cases they're supposed to use the lethal bus lane or mix with manic drivers intent of reaching 60mph in the few yards untl the next traffic light.

Still, perhaps when David "Green" Cameron gets into office the roads will be emptied of these 'autogeddon' cars and bicycling will be a safer mode of travel.

gwplf | 31.10.06 - 8:29 a.m. | #

(This post was brilliant)

The Girl | Homepage | 31.10.06 - 8:41 a.m. | #

dg for Prime Minister!!!

The Girl | Homepage | 31.10.06 - 8:41 a.m. | #

Also, all those "CYCLISTS DISMOUNT UNDER LOW BRIDGE" signs along the Regent's Canal towpath mean different cyclists.

I found out the other day that cyclists actually need a permit to use the towpath. I wonder if anybody has ever been done for not having one?

Simon C | Homepage | 31.10.06 - 8:43 a.m. | #

Prime minister? Hmmmm His pre- Christmas colours still need a lot of forgiving

strandman | Homepage | 31.10.06 - 8:44 a.m. | #

Oh dear dg.

Are you trying to move on from Time Out to the Daily Mail?

All us cyclists are evil aren't we? How about some racial sterotyping tomorrow?

NiC | Homepage | 31.10.06 - 9:30 a.m. | #

Yes, some cyclists are w*nkers, but equally so are some drivers of 4 or more wheels, e.g. the car driver who went into the back of my bike when stupidly, I OBEYED the Highway Code and stopped when the lights changed! (This has also happened to me in the car - it seems to be more dangerous to brake when you see an amber light than to accelerate these days!)

(cycles off muttering to self)

SueR | 31.10.06 - 9:35 a.m. | #

I just spent a couple of weeks in northern California, and the riding-on-pavements issue is even more of an issue there. At least one cyclist on a narrow path forced me off the pavement and into the adjacent bike lane, from where I swore at his rapidly departing back.

But they did generally stop at lights, at least as often as the cars did.

Storme | Homepage | 31.10.06 - 9:52 a.m. | #

This is normal behaviour for all vehicles in Rome and Paris.

Johnny Topaz | 31.10.06 - 10:06 a.m. | #

I've found that a swift boot to the spokes (As I proceed across the crossing in tribute to Monty Python's ministry of silly walks) is far more effective than a swear word. Particulary if I apologise to the now prone cyclist.

ian | Homepage | 31.10.06 - 10:12 a.m. | #

[fetches popcorn]

quin | Homepage | 31.10.06 - 10:33 a.m. | #

Cycling in London is a survival skill. There are far, far, far more crappy car drivers than cyclists. But - probably because a) we annoy drivers because we get there faster than they can in there multi-thousand pound gas guzzlers and b) some are so afraid of the roads that they cycle on the pavement (yeah some think pavements are the fast lane, too) - for some reason we are singled out for abuse.

I ride to survive. For me that means using my driving skills on a bike - reading the road and making constant split second decisions based on conditions. I always slow down and mostly stop at red lights. Sometimes, it is safer to go through.

Going east onto the Bow Flyover is a good example: for some reason the approach to the slip road brings out some curious driving. Getting ahead decreases the time I'm exposed to it.

Face it. More pedestrians are killed by cars than cyclists. More cylists are killed by cars than cyclists. More drivers are killed by cars than cyclists. Doing stupid things (including weaving in traffic, undertaking, shooting lights etc) on a bike increases your chances of having an accident - but why are car drivers allowed to be stupid and not cyclists?

Stand outside your door and look at the knobheads in cars for a couple of minutes, then consider that a focus on the poor bike riding (which does exist)helps tip the balance away from making London a city to cycle in. For some reason, we're fair game.

Last week in the pouring rain, I crossed the Bow Flyover and saw the result of a multipile up of about 5 cars, two being unmangled by the Firemen. No bike involved.

Ham | Homepage | 31.10.06 - 10:54 a.m. | #

So I am new to the country here, and have started riding my bicycle. Am I actually allowed to pass a queue of cars waiting at a traffic light? Am I supposed to do that on the right (you normally pass traffic on the right) or on the left, since that's the bike line anyway. And what am I supposed to do when I get to the front? Get in front of the first car?

I have just been taking quieter roads around here and I'm still not completely sure about how this all works. I'm Dutch and over there riding is so incredibly relaxing.

sweek | 31.10.06 - 11:04 a.m. | #

I look at cyclists going through red lights like I look at cars speeding. Everybody complains when they get caught speeding. Cyclists complain that they get victimised for going through red lights. Maybe if everybody just stuck to the actual law, things would be ok, applicable to both drivers and cyclists.

So yeah, pork wings OK for Sunday lunch?

Simon | Homepage | 31.10.06 - 11:11 a.m. | #

sweek, you can pass a line of traffic to the left or right, or through the middle, or weaving in and out. it is not governed by law, but by safety. When you get to the traffic light you may well see an Advance Cylcle Lane painted on the road which is where you are supposed to be able to wait safely for the traffic lights to change. It will normally be occupied (illegally) by cars and/or motorcycles. London cycling Campaign is a good site and organisation for London Cyclist.

My advice: ride on the inside slowly. Watch for pedestrians, cars, lorries, coaches taxis etc who think that bikes either don't exist or can stop instantaneously. Rememeber - you are soft - cars are hard.

Ham | Homepage | 31.10.06 - 11:18 a.m. | #

Many cyclists are roadhogs and a hazard to themselves and others. It isn't much of a defence to say, however accurately, that many car drivers are roadhogs too. It astonishes me that cyclists do not seem to care more about their own safety. Nor do many of them care about the safety of pedestrians.

z | Homepage | 31.10.06 - 11:28 a.m. | #

I both drive (because I have a 50 mile, non-public transport commute to work) and cycle (at weekends) and I see idiots of both species all the time.

It's no defence to say "many car drivers are idiots, so I'm allowed to ride like an idiot on my bike".

Yes, some car drivers go too fast and drive illegally. But, the majority don't ride on the pavement or jump red lights, unlike a huge number of cyclists.

EVERYONE should obey the rules - that's what they're there for!

PTMoore | Homepage | 31.10.06 - 11:40 a.m. | #

Roadhogs? Sorry, that's the one epithet that can't rationally be attached to London cyclists. Ill mannered, stupid, suicidal, dangerous - yes, I'll agree with any of those.

And it's not a defence, it's a fact. A dickhead on a cycle might just as well be a dickhead in a car. In a car, they are substantially more dangerous. There are already more in cars.

I'd hazard that the number of law infringments per mile is a higher proportion for cars than it is for bikes.

(Conceivably, cylists blocking the road riding abreast and chatting is roadhog behaviour but that doesn't happen too much down the Mile End Road)

Ham | Homepage | 31.10.06 - 11:42 a.m. | #

When I was working in the City, I'd commute via cycle from Marble Arch. I never realized that the biggest danger to cycling wasn't cars, taxis or busses, but the pedestrians who pop out from between the vehicles and jump into traffic because *they* can't wait for the lights to change. And they're not even near a crosswalk.

The Met is cracking down on errant cyclists though ... my roommate got a £30 ticket last month for going through a red light. Now he waits at the corner while every one else goes on ahead.

bob | Homepage | 31.10.06 - 11:51 a.m. | #

----------------------* Lights fuse and stands well back.

(thinks all roads should be made into lovely lawns)

strandman | Homepage | 31.10.06 - 11:56 a.m. | #

Just to be perfectly clear:

I am a driver and a cyclist.

I am against poor cycling, but it happens. Like poor driving happens. Poor driving is MUCH more dangerous but for some reason doesn't attract the same opprobrium.

Last week I was stopped at a cross road by a red light when from about 30 yards back (and after the lights had turned red) a bus pulled out onto the opposite side of the road and decided to turn right. If a cyclist does that, mostly he mangles himself. In this case - can you concieve of the potential carnage? Sorry, in this debate the sentiments are not wrong but the sense of proportion is.

(as it happens, I took the bus number and reported this)

Ham | Homepage | 31.10.06 - 11:58 a.m. | #

I like cyclists - in principle. In reality I have nearly been knocked down several times in the past year by t***s on bikes who appear to be colour blind (both men and women) or just blind.

I have not (yet - touches wood) been injured by a car/motor vehicle or a racist for that matter, despite having lived in the East End all my life.

Thankfully I can look after myself and have some choice words I can hurl after said t***s - assuimg they're not wearing headphones (why?!). But they seem to ignore primary school children on zebra crossings in front of schools which is just unforgiveable (Cable St cycle lane is a good example of this).

s | 31.10.06 - 12:36 p.m. | #

As a motorcyclist, I can't wait for that article.

Josh | Homepage | 31.10.06 - 12:54 p.m. | #

OK so we are all agreed there are bad drivers and cyclists. But having cycled in London for 20 odd years, I can happily testify that the number of traffic junctions with lights on has grown hugely. DG maybe a quick investigation into the percentage increase might provide an interesting statistic?

Jono | 31.10.06 - 12:58 p.m. | #

Why do cyclists complain so much when they get these high quality specialist features developed for them especially? http://www.warringtoncyclecampai...ty-of-the-
month

tim | 31.10.06 - 12:58 p.m. | #

Wow. I was quite surprised to see this, it feels much more Daily Mail than DG that I'm used to. Cyclists get so much stick when Cars are far more dangerous and there are far more bad and dangerous car drivers. Yeah, there are a few stupid cyclists but the constant attacks on them in the media seem so out of proportion.

Geoff | 31.10.06 - 1:01 p.m. | #

Oh dear. Got out of bed the wrong side, dg? Perhaps this is a London thing, but cyclists are very vulnerable and lots of car drivers are careless. I'm a cyclist, a car driver and a pedestrian, but I haven't seen any of this behaviour that you list. My main concern is the pedestrians who walk in the cycle lane, even when there's an unoccupied path right beside it. I cycle up behind them VERY quickly, slam on my brakes so they screech and make the person jump, and then shout, "You're in the cycle lane!" They look startled and I feel a lot better. Who knows, it may even stop them doing it again.

Chig | Homepage | 31.10.06 - 1:10 p.m. | #

I just creep up very quietly behind them and go **DING DING DING**. It scares the shit out of them

quin | Homepage | 31.10.06 - 1:18 p.m. | #

It's only fair, Chig. They're probably only in the cycle lane to avoid the hordes of cyclists on the pavement.

Are you really claiming you've never seen a cyclist go through a red light?

ian | Homepage | 31.10.06 - 1:19 p.m. | #

DG's post is much too clever to grace the Daily Mail.

Countryside cyclists are as bad. They ride two abreast, even on important A roads, making themselves difficult to pass. They ride on public footpaths ileagally and on bridlepaths they never use the bells their bikes are provided with to warn us they are approaching. When they do overtake us they almost cycle right through us like we are not there. Infact cyclists have to give way to pedestrians and horse riders on bridlepaths, dismounting if nessescary.

As far as London goes I have found that while many car drivers cannot drive (as with everywhere) they mostly at least understand the need to give way to pedestrians etc. in a city. And if drivers of motor vehicles disregarded traffic lights in the same numbers cyclists do the whole system would break down.

Perhaps it would pay cyclists to realise that their bikes are much quieter than cars as well as learn some common courtesy to others.

Kevinho | 31.10.06 - 1:30 p.m. | #

cyclists: more interesting than pie

Anonymous | 31.10.06 - 1:56 p.m. | #

Having worked in London for many years I'm with DG. The lights are there for a reason and cyclists should be bound by the law like everyone else.
There are enough motorists who jump lights - no argument there. But there are very few motorists who *deliberately* drive straight through red lights as cyclists do.
As for the pavement riders - in London I could forgive them. I'd never take a bike onto London roads in a million years. But on a small local backroad as I saw this morning, no excuse whatsoever.

GoodTwin | 31.10.06 - 1:57 p.m. | #

Kevinho,

Regarding your point "if drivers of motor vehicles disregarded traffic lights in the same numbers cyclists do the whole system would break down"

I guess thats the point. Cyclist dont break the system down by riding through reds. Sure the one's who don't give way to pedistrians are an arse, but they have yet to kill one!

Jono | 31.10.06 - 2:13 p.m. | #

I have been cycling in Central London for 2 years now and there is alot of truth to DG's post. Every day I see on numerous occasions cyclists running lights, riding on the pavement and failing to yield to peds at crosswalks. Not so for cars. I can honestly say that I have had more "near misses" with other cyclists than I have had with cars. Just because cyclists are not "gas-guzzlers" or "car drivers are just as dangerous" does not give us the right to do whatever we want. Motorbikes are not gas-guzzlers; what if they started running red lights as well? Is that justified?

It pains me to say it but I support the registration of all cyclists because I am tired dealing with all the ones that either don't know cycling laws and etiquette or choose not to abide by them. I would have hoped that the cycling community could police itself; but it appears that will not happen in the foreseeable future.

Brant | 31.10.06 - 2:21 p.m. | #

I promise to keep quiet after this one, even if I haven't had the chance to work the word "sanctimonious" into a comment.

Much more comparable with cyclists running red lights are drivers using mobile phones, which is equally illegal and more dangerous for everyone else. The Rospa Report (and common sense) provides overwhelming evidence that using a phone in a car makes it more likely that you will kill or injure someone else. Yet everyone pretty much ignores it.

Let's get real. If there were more bikes, fewer cars, the roads and our cities would be safer and cleaner.

Ham | Homepage | 31.10.06 - 3:25 p.m. | #

DG, you've just lost a fan.

I cycle around London and you have to stay in front of, well around, and out of the way of cars, else you get driven into and killed.

I'm sure some cyclists are a bit aggressive, but so are some drivers, some pedestrians, and all morning tube passengers.

I'm also not poisoning the surrounding air, dirtying up the lovely buildings with my exhaust fumes or killing cats.

I only hope that was an ironic 'first part' update, and that tomorrow you'll redress the balance by pointing out how car drivers are killing pedestrians, cyclists and the planet every day.

CZ | 31.10.06 - 3:29 p.m. | #

Riding a bicycle is one of the last remaining forms of useful anarchy that can be practised without anyone much minding. The ability to weave in and out of traffic, ride on sidewalks, generally ignore lights and cut through lanes where cars can't go is not only a joy for the cyclist, but it also gets one to the destination in an unbelieveably short time. And it doesn't put any toxic hydrocarbons into the air.

I agree there are many idiotic cyclists... but they usually distinguish themselves by wearing loud tasteless costumes covered with advertsing logos and they always seem to be trying out for the Tour de France.

Cellphones in the hands of drivers are by far a greater menace to society.

John | Homepage | 31.10.06 - 3:56 p.m. | #

Cyclists, by their very process of their exercise and breathing, are fuelling global warming by their increased emission of CO2. They are a danger to the planet!

I have never, ever, seen a car drive through a red light when there were pedestrians on the crossing. I have seen many cyclists do exactlty the same.

ian | Homepage | 31.10.06 - 4:07 p.m. | #

Hmm, I'm not sure where all these people are getting the idea that DG would prefer people to drive instead of cycling, but I'd be extremely surprised if that were the case. Good cyclists are a good thing. Bad cyclists - the ones who run red lights, ride on pavements, generally ignore the rules they too are supposed to follow - are the problem.

Maybe cycling proficiency tests should be made compulsory.

Storme | Homepage | 31.10.06 - 4:10 p.m. | #

Oh dear.

Maybe the Highway Code for motorists needs posting up as well. Contrary to popular opinion, you're not allowed to use your mobile phone when driving.

I'm through with knobber petrol heads. They exist and I have to learn to live with them.

By far the greater threat is pedestrians. Three nasty accidents for me in the past 12 months - all three caused by knobbers not waiting for the green man and walking out in front of me.

Not impressed.

onionbagblogger | Homepage | 31.10.06 - 4:33 p.m. | #

It’s the pedestrians that get up my back. I cycle and drive, we have laws, the pedestrians have none. How often at traffic lights do they cross when they should wait? They cross the road at all points not where they should, they rarely look out for cyclists and when a cyclist does the same thing they get shirty!! Lets have one pavement for pedestrians and the opposite side of the street for cyclists or preferably ban them all together. Or at least get them to get off their high horse, (PS I’ve never seen a person walking down the side of the road, or have I)

Lancealittle | 31.10.06 - 4:46 p.m. | #

The bottom line is that cyclists and motorists should obey the law. There is NO excuse in saying that just because someone doesn't adhere to this law; I won’t adhere to that one. Police and Community Support staff should come down hard on traffic offenders, 2 or 4 wheeled. Cycles should also be registered and show an identifiable registration plate.

Mark Garth | 31.10.06 - 4:55 p.m. | #

The problem with stopping at red lights is that a cyclist is then competing with a motorist for the same road space at the same time, and motorists may not always look or be aware of the cyclist's presence. So it's much safer to pull away a laittle earlier during those few precious seconds when the junction is empty. That way the bike has a head start and is clearly visible as cars catch up.

Making a left turn, again, there is no reason why a cyclist, seeing a comfortable gap in traffic, shouldn't filter in. It can also safer for the same reason as above.

Pedestrians – and I am one too – cross the road at all times and everywhere if they can get away with it – stepping into the roads without looking, they dare cars and bikes to run them over. This is crazy but then again, here's a city spilling over and always in a rush.

London, and people, will never be regimented as completely as DG wants – until we all have registration numbers, and are barcoded and tracked.

Capitano | 31.10.06 - 5:08 p.m. | #

No road user is better than any other at obeying the rules. Unless you're an IAD stalwart. It's unfair to highlight cyclists in isolation.

Let me just find my daily mail...

Another Andrew | 31.10.06 - 5:23 p.m. | #

>By far the greater threat is pedestrians.

>It’s the pedestrians that get up my back

As someone who leads the ultimate pedestrian lifestyle (walking to work, never owned a car, bicyle, scooter, motorcyle in my life), I can't believe that some people can actually put forward this view in all seriousness. Let's have some statistics on causes of deaths on the roads to underpin this discussion.

gwplf | 31.10.06 - 5:26 p.m. | #

I gave you them - THREE accidents all caused by pedestrians.

Got the facial scars to prove it as well.

onionbagblogger | Homepage | 31.10.06 - 5:29 p.m. | #

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I have enormous respect for anybody who cycles in London. I wouldn't risk it myself - it's far too dangerous.

But individual cyclists immediately lose my respect if they deliberately jump a red light (particularly if I'm crossing the road at the same time).

Just because car drivers drive badly (and they do), doesn't give cyclists the excuse to break the law whenever they think it's safe to do so.

*************************************

diamond geezer | Homepage | 31.10.06 - 5:47 p.m. | #

Quinn was quite right in frying up the popcorn eh

Another Andrew | 31.10.06 - 5:55 p.m. | #

Cycling isn't dangerous - driving cars into cyclists is.

onionbagblogger | Homepage | 31.10.06 - 6:04 p.m. | #

Agree Agree

How scary to be a cyclist in London? Unless you are David Cameron in which case you just look like a tw^t!

Respect is due but please respect back. Red means stop in any country or language. You know better!

City Slicker | Homepage | 31.10.06 - 6:05 p.m. | #

Spot on, DG - - and not even remotely Daily Mailish.

The bloody cyclists on Theobalds Road in Holborn of an evening should all be shot.

Or hung drawn and quartered at Clerkenwell Green.

I'm not a violent man, but that's how bad they are.

Venichka | 31.10.06 - 6:48 p.m. | #

Where I live cyclists ride along the cycle paths in the wrong direction. That way they don't see any lights. As an avid 4x4 driver, I salute you for highlighting this issue dg. Surely it would be possible for the police to push their batons through the spokes of the wheels of cyclists flouting the law. That would soon bring them to their senses.

Music Man | Homepage | 31.10.06 - 8:19 p.m. | #

As an avid 4x4 driver

Oh these comments get better and better

Another Andrew | 31.10.06 - 8:59 p.m. | #

I've been hit, as a pedestrian, by a cyclist going the wrong way down a one way street. Cycling in London is far too dangerous to think that the laws of the road don't apply to you.

Courtesy and safety first should apply to all road users. Don't blame others before looking at yourself, however you get about.

z | Homepage | 31.10.06 - 9:13 p.m. | #

Everyone should obey the laws on the road - they've been created for all of our protection.

There are NO excuses in breaking the law.

FULL STOP.

The Girl | Homepage | 31.10.06 - 10:18 p.m. | #

and that's it, the Queen has spoken (Full Stop), The PM DG has found his election topic. And all is well in the world.

strandman | Homepage | 01.11.06 - 8:49 a.m. | #

To 'The Girl':

"Everyone should obey the laws on the road - they've been created for all of our protection."

No sorry - not all rules protect everyone at the same time. Traffic signals are not designed to protect cyclists. In London most simply control the vast overflow of traffic. They stop too many cars/vans/trucks from passing through a certain route, over an amount of time! 10 years ago the Angel junction had 3 sets of lights, now it has 12. Why should I stop at them all? I simply increase the amount of time I am exposed to traffic at junctions - no deal.

But I agree all cyclists should give way to pedestrians.

Jono | 01.11.06 - 5:23 p.m. | #

Rant 1: As a law-abiding cyclist who doesn't jump lights, my pet hate is the lights near my house that don't change till a bus stops at them. So I either have to jump the lights, get off and be a pedestrian, or wait for a bus.

Rant 2: Kinda like quin at 1.18 yesterday - I very nearly got knocked down last week by someone deciding they couldn't be bothered to wait in the queue they were in, but unfortunately couldn't be bothered to check their mirror before lurching to the right towards the pavement. Into - yes, that'll be the fluorescent orange one with the flashing lights. So I stopped and waited for him to get out of his car. "You do realise you just nearly knocked me off my bike?" COMPLETELY OBLIVIOUS. "Next time, check your mirrors, eh?"

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

libby | 01.11.06 - 9:28 p.m. | #

This post has really hit a nerve.

Fatima | 01.11.06 - 9:44 p.m. | #

I was in Glasgow yesterday, and never saw a single cyclist. Here in foreign, they're as all over the place as this post suggests. The fact is that the road isn't safe for them, but increasingly the pavement isn't either. An increasing number of pedestrians are growing tired of sharing the pavement with our two-wheeled friends, and launching verbal and physical attacks. It's not nice.

Many cyclists do themselves no favours, though. Such as the man on a bike effing and blinding at the truck having the audacity to drive down a one way street in the correct direction at a sensible speed. The chap in question wasn't wearing a helmet, although his child was. I had visions of the four-year-old lad, standing over thebody of his father going "Daddy... daddy..."

I have thought about taking up cycling again, but frankly I'd be ashamed.

Alan Oddverse Redüx | 02.11.06 - 12:42 p.m. | #

damned work, stopped me from seeing this post on Tuesday and reading the comments in real time. And as a self-styled 'militant cyclist' I have so much to say...

In a nutshell, my rule of thumb is that I may only break the rules of the road if I can do so by avoiding inconveniencing other road users (pedestrians or drivers). If something bad happens because *I* am in the wrong, then I have to accept that it was my fault.

That said, I will assert my right to space on the road, and yes, that usually involves "creeping" in front of the first car at the lights, and generally keeping to the middle of the lane to ensure that they see me. If there's no room for them to pass, then I'm not going to let them *think* there's room to try!

And there I'll leave it. Now, let's see what DG wrote Wednesday and Thursday...

Wayne | Homepage | 02.11.06 - 6:14 p.m. | #

“En” suggested I take a look at this blog..

Well if you have a look at my recent post I would agree with most comments on here.

I’m a Police Community Support Officer, I recently organized an Op to deal with and deter Cyclists disregarding traffic laws.

What a funny bunch cyclists are.
I find that the mouthiest cyclists are middle aged women.

I had a solicitor today, what a numpty, she told me there were no cycle lanes, I explained that’s no excuse and people had been seriously injured by people like you etc.

She was fuming, didn’t dispute the ticket though…to my knowledge.

Have a quick look at my blog and it explains the whole process of our Cycle Ops.

http://policecommunitysupportoff...y-
cyclists.html

great post though!

PCSO | Homepage | 03.11.06 - 2:19 a.m. | #

but seriously.. you ever raced in the city? the whole game of light jumping becomes a whole different gambit when you are trying to get away from ticket happy fuzz...

you all sounds like a bunch of queers to me.. wake up and take responsibility for yourselves. if you jump lights, wtf be prepared for action if someone doesnt like it...

up the revolution innit

seven | 03.11.06 - 8:23 p.m. | #

Got stuck in your car somewhere did you, DG?

Neill | 10.11.06 - 2:25 p.m. | #

I don't have a car, Neill, just feet.

diamond geezer | Homepage | 10.11.06 - 5:09 p.m. | #

I ride a bike, but I'm not a cyclist. The difference is that people who ride bikes just want to get to where they're going, wear normal clothes, don't think they're in the Tour de France and stop at red lights and zebra crossings. Whereas cyclists...cyclists are cunts. I see them every day. The amount of sheer venom in the average London cyclist could be siphoned off and used to make very powerful blow-dart weapons. Which I think should be used against the arrogant wanktard cyclists who yell at hapless pedestrians who dare to stand up to them. All 5'2" of me nearly got in a fist-fight (nearly because he ran off, the lycra-covered poof) with a cyclist once who nearly ran a woman over and then came back for a good bullying of her when she stood up for herself (funny how he was in such a hurry before). I'd do it again any day.

Toria | 14.11.06 - 7:14 a.m. | #

Glad to see that this post got a wider viewing via one of the London free-sheets - don't normally read them but happened to pick up this particular issue. A great post which deserved the extra exposure.

s | 23.11.06 - 11:39 a.m. | #

Couldn't resist bringing up the number of comments to a nice round figure : )

s | 23.11.06 - 11:42 a.m. | #

Cycling is not dangerous to motorists, pedestrians or other cyclists.

REAPEAT THAT FACT TO YOURSELF UNTIL YOU FINALLY BEGIN TO GRASP IT.

So stop whinging about the cyclist that *nearly* hit you (translation: "ooh there are so many bikes on the road these days and sometimes they come close to me/ go faster than me and i just don't like it!")

It's so easy for pedestrians and motorists shocked by the sudden increase in cyclists and go all daily mail.
And to them i say pull your head out of your bottom and look at the numbers you dickheads.

vagrant | 23.11.06 - 4:14 p.m. | #

And to you, 'Vagrant', I say stop at red lights and stay off the pavement. You fucking self-rightous dick.

Adrian Zmed | 18.01.07 - 4:33 p.m. | #

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