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Why don't I get the comments going with an oblique and tangential point about the railways...

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dg writes: Because it's an oblique and tangential point about the railways.
so let's get even more oblique and tangential and discuss KITTENS instead.Purrrr.
Very interesting post about an area I have only seen whilst on the North Circular.

In the last sentence of your para. that starts "Angel Road ..." did you mean "exiting" (clever, if so!)or "existing"?

dg writes: Fixed, thanks.
Theresa May: "We need to come together."

DG: "Segregate the railway weirdos."
I believe this was originally a four track railway, hence the wide flat open space alongside the remaining pair of tracks, this was needed for all the coal trains trundling into London and empties returning.

There are a set of photos in British Railway Illustrated Magazine (possibly Vol 19.3 Feb 2014, 111) of the earlier viaduct carrying the North Circular Road over the railway at Angel Road, in those days it was just a wide road - I assume these were taken by a DG like predecessor, recording what was about to disappear.

I wonder if there might ever be a case for doubling the tracks again. Is the route protected?
I believe that is the plan, however the reason this is a separate comments section is because dg knows full well that that conversation rapidly devolves into crayons.

Hence my mischievous earlier comment which will now forever be a mystery.
They will be four tracking the route for Crossrail 2.
The West Anglia Main Line has only ever been twin track between Hackney Downs (where the route through Seven Sisters diverges) and just South of Cheshunt (where it rejoins).

There was, however, a line running from just North of Angel Road station (the junction was approximately where Conduit Lane now crosses the line) to a point North of Edmonton Green (formerly Lower Edmonton) station, which crossed Montagu Road and The Green itself by means of level crossings.

This was the original route between Enfield and Stratford until the high level route to Bishopsgate (and subsequently Liverpool Street) via Seven Sisters opened in the 1870s.

At Angel Road itself, there was a small goods yard, with fairly extensive private sidings on both sides of the line.

Access to the station itself was from the South side of Angel Road viaduct prior to the major upgrade of the A406 in the early 1990s, and the station had a half hourly service to Hertford East all day.

That was progressively reduced to the token service it receives today with the increase in frequency of Stansted Express services and the desire to speed up the Cambridge services to better fit around them.
I can see the development potential, if there is a prospect of Crossrail coming here. But it is not the core Crossrail 2 route, is it. Might it be dropped?

Looking back, I see DG said a while ago - http://diamondgeezer.blogspot.co.uk/2015/10/crossrail-2.html - that it would be doubled for the STAR services from 2017/18. Not much sign of that...
Crumbs, 2030... by then Brexit will be a distant memory, much like the last Labour government is today.
Crossrail 2 should/will bring 4 tracks to here, and all the way to Broxbourne, giving two tracks for the Cambridge/Stansted services to whizz along without stopping, and two tracks for CR2 and STAR (which appeared in the CR2 consultation documents as 4tph to at least Broxbourne with the northern terminus left undefined, much like CR2) to stop at all stations.

So far, so fact based.

I'd reckon (oh god crayons) that STAR may become, in that far future, an Overground service, possibly through to Hertford










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